He has reason enough to listen to his rav. A rav knows everything and we must do as they say, even when that means believing in 6 day creations and talking donkeys. They have access to what G-d wants of us at all times and we MUST obey. I pray for your souls BH
Or you don’t know what relationship mean, or you don’t know what hashem means.
When I was a kid I read a “nonfiction” story about a teenage boy in pre-war Europe who didn’t have a head for learning – nothing would penetrate, not even Rashi. This was seen as a tragedy, especially since he came from a rabbinic family.
So they set out to investigate why this could be. They delved deeply into what could have happened, and discovered…. that when he was around 6 years old, the boy had gone to a wedding in the shtetl where he lived with the other boys and they ate some food there. The food was 100% kosher, of course. But it turned out that this was the wedding of a woman who had been married before, and later it turned out that some rav had questioned the validity of a witness to the Get which ended her first marriage.
They said “aha!” If the Get was questionable, she was an eshes ish, which means that the wedding was to celebrate an averah, which means that the food was tainted, which OF COURSE is what cause d this kid’s inability to learn!”
Hahahaha! I remember that book. It was full of these kinds of stories. It was so dramatic that I ever remember what the shochet said when the boy’s father came to inquire about the kashrut of that wedding. He moaned and cried “my hands should roast in hell for slaughtering chickens for that wedding”.
They convinced him to go to a yeshiva where they used cult like indoctrination, and the rabbis messed up peoples relationships with their families and their shidduchim . He didn’t like the whole your garbage because your a b.t. or your family doesn’t have yichus or whatever else they might say. Everybody was being a little yenta and eventually he stopped caring because their words fell off of his scope of give a
(any word you can say after I don’t give a)
you know, i’m off the derech, yet i don’t have any of these excuses. i blame a religion so deep in trouble that its almost as bad as christianity. the real judaism isn’t existent anymore. jews originally didn’t believe in hell. now anything you do wrong could send you to the fires of gehinom. you could walk without a kippah for a second & you’d go to gehinom. plus there’s too much contradiction in the way of life. the torah says not to do something & even the hassidim do it anyway. it just didn’t make sense so i stopped following it.
Hi, Jews always believed in hell. But it’s definitely not a Christian hell! Maybe before dissing Judaism, find the sect/beliefs that’s right for you.
I’m happily religious, I’m Chabad, I live in Lakewood, and I hear and see things people say against Lubavitch all the time. The only reason I’m still here is because IT IS SO MEANINGFUL TO ME–t’s a bridge through which I can connect to G-d and serve Him, and I didn’t find that in Lakewood. Trust me, the Gehinnom I grew up with is not the Gehinnom I had to re-learn.
I’m not saying “become Chabad.” I’m saying, different streaks for different freaks. Maybe it comforts some people to know that other people will burn in everlasting flames for their sins. I have a different, deeper understanding of hell, and I’m so relieved to have found it.
So a massive, massive good luck for you or for anyone who actually reads this: find that thing that fits for you.
All of the above; you’re so off the derech you ain’t never coming back.
I’ve gone through about half of the items on the list and am still on the derech. Proves to me that those are just excuses.
You must be lacking a key ingredent not on the bingo board; a sense of reason.
No, I have a sense of reason. It’s just that my relationship with Hashem was never contingent on any of the above factors.
I think he meant to say “you lack a sense of humor”
“I have a sense of reason. It’s just that my relationship with Hashem…”
isnt this an oxymoron? if you have reason, how do you have a relationship (a 2 way street, no?) with an invisible (most like non existant) God??
unless, you dont know what reason means…..
He has reason enough to listen to his rav. A rav knows everything and we must do as they say, even when that means believing in 6 day creations and talking donkeys. They have access to what G-d wants of us at all times and we MUST obey. I pray for your souls BH
Or you don’t know what relationship mean, or you don’t know what hashem means.
Where’s the “eating salad”?
If a Baal Teshuva goes off the derech, which is he? A Baal Teshuva? An off-the-derech? Neither?
This question will seriously fuck you up, so watch out.
They say he’s done Baal’s Teshuva
Good one
He’s ‘Hey remember that guy that used to come to Shul?’ ‘With the shoes?’
‘No.’
Oh never mind then.
(I’m just being mean )
When I was a kid I read a “nonfiction” story about a teenage boy in pre-war Europe who didn’t have a head for learning – nothing would penetrate, not even Rashi. This was seen as a tragedy, especially since he came from a rabbinic family.
So they set out to investigate why this could be. They delved deeply into what could have happened, and discovered…. that when he was around 6 years old, the boy had gone to a wedding in the shtetl where he lived with the other boys and they ate some food there. The food was 100% kosher, of course. But it turned out that this was the wedding of a woman who had been married before, and later it turned out that some rav had questioned the validity of a witness to the Get which ended her first marriage.
They said “aha!” If the Get was questionable, she was an eshes ish, which means that the wedding was to celebrate an averah, which means that the food was tainted, which OF COURSE is what cause d this kid’s inability to learn!”
Sounds like a story Rafi Hecht read before bed.
Hahahaha! I remember that book. It was full of these kinds of stories. It was so dramatic that I ever remember what the shochet said when the boy’s father came to inquire about the kashrut of that wedding. He moaned and cried “my hands should roast in hell for slaughtering chickens for that wedding”.
Very amusing.
Funny game. I’d play it.
Where is “His mother died when he was 6”?
Not cool.
AC, shut up
Where is “I’m a fucking moron that’s why I’m still frum”?
Wow no jabs at TV cool
Western Culture
They convinced him to go to a yeshiva where they used cult like indoctrination, and the rabbis messed up peoples relationships with their families and their shidduchim . He didn’t like the whole your garbage because your a b.t. or your family doesn’t have yichus or whatever else they might say. Everybody was being a little yenta and eventually he stopped caring because their words fell off of his scope of give a
(any word you can say after I don’t give a)
you know, i’m off the derech, yet i don’t have any of these excuses. i blame a religion so deep in trouble that its almost as bad as christianity. the real judaism isn’t existent anymore. jews originally didn’t believe in hell. now anything you do wrong could send you to the fires of gehinom. you could walk without a kippah for a second & you’d go to gehinom. plus there’s too much contradiction in the way of life. the torah says not to do something & even the hassidim do it anyway. it just didn’t make sense so i stopped following it.
True, it it wasn’t us first burning gays its us now with the chalov yisroel and tzniut revolution. All lame and man-made
We burn gays?
Hi, Jews always believed in hell. But it’s definitely not a Christian hell! Maybe before dissing Judaism, find the sect/beliefs that’s right for you.
I’m happily religious, I’m Chabad, I live in Lakewood, and I hear and see things people say against Lubavitch all the time. The only reason I’m still here is because IT IS SO MEANINGFUL TO ME–t’s a bridge through which I can connect to G-d and serve Him, and I didn’t find that in Lakewood. Trust me, the Gehinnom I grew up with is not the Gehinnom I had to re-learn.
I’m not saying “become Chabad.” I’m saying, different streaks for different freaks. Maybe it comforts some people to know that other people will burn in everlasting flames for their sins. I have a different, deeper understanding of hell, and I’m so relieved to have found it.
So a massive, massive good luck for you or for anyone who actually reads this: find that thing that fits for you.