Frummies are huge into kugels, it seems like anything can be considered a kugel nowadays, cranberry apple pie or cobbler has even been changed to reflect the frummy kugel culture. Potato kugel must be oily, if you do not feel your heart slow down its obviously not a frummie kugel and may have been made by modern orthodox people and brought over as a gift – in which case your shabbos host is obviously not that frummie because they trust people who don’t wear black hats and may even wear colored yarmulkes.
Frummies also love to serve dark meat chicken, its as if to make up for all their racist banter they conceded and said they will only have dark meat chicken on shabbos. If they have white meat it’s always in the form of schnitzel. Frummies rarely serve meat, if they do it is usually smothered in some sort of generic barbeque sauce that always separates from the oil used.
You can also tell you are eating at a frummies house by the fact that the cholent is almost always made by the man of the house. Its as if women are banned from cholent making, in more modern homes the man never cooks which is a bit odd considering the feminism aspect involved.
Modern people love color at their shabbos tables while frummies say that anything besides for brown and shades of white or yellow is untznius and too out of the box. Think about it, the most colorful thing on any frummie table is the chrain, and once in a while a salad. But even frummie salads are nothing to write home about. Soggy lettuce with soaked in soap strawberries, over ripe mango slices and if your lucky, craisins. But modern orthodox people being the apikorsim that they are serve things like spinach salad with cherry tomatoes (frummies rarely use cherry tomatoes because of their price) and balsamic vinaigrette – another thing not found in many frummie households. Modern people also use real broccoli, not the frozen kind like the frummies, but I am not sure those modern folks will be happy when they get up to the beis din shel maala to find out that they got 6 lavim for every bug hidden in the broccoli florets.
For some reason frummies love corn salad, but thank God for modern orthodox folks who discovered something called bok choy which I guarantee you will never find at a household full of black velvet yarmulke wearers.
In general frummies shy away from vegetables, high cost, the time it takes to get all the bugs out, untznius colors and the health of them all factor in to this decision. Certain vegetables are allowed however and do make their way into frummie shabbos meals. Potatoes are a favorite, roasted in oil, hidden in cholent and sliced up and put into kugel – wow I sound like bubba gump shrimp guy explaining how many ways to eat shrimp.
However, Frummies will never eat any of the following vegetables unless forced to by some white yarmulke wearing host who swears he washed them 22 times, shows them the bodek packaging, and informs the guests that he speaks Yiddish fluently and approves of banning women. Non frozen broccoli, strawberries, asparagus, or romaine lettuce – frummies favor bagged dole iceberg lettuce that has no taste besides for those little slivers of red cabbage. Frummies also never serve cooked peppers, but love to put green peppers into salad and mushrooms as well – see I gave em something.
Modern people love being anti-conformist and serving different soups than the traditional chicken with the pupick. I have noticed gazpacho, lentil and cabbage becoming popular in recent years. Even frummies have been getting progressive and serving veggies with their soup, some even put grains like barley inside, such a shonda.
I should make mention that frummies love making parve ice cream that tastes like ices. They love gramcracker crusts and they love serving chocolate cream pie – while modern orthodox people suck in the desert department and tend to serve fruit and chocolate cakes which never match up to the trans fat filled frummie deserts.
As someone who is a very picky eater I appreciate the variety at a Shabbat diiner, because it greatly increases the chances of me actually liking something!
Not sure where you got the idea that modern men don’t cook. That’s true for my parents’ generation, but not mine.
Speaking of kugel, I used to make an amazing potato kugel. I added a little broccoli & spinach to be able to claim it was healthy, but I still loaded it up with oil and kept the oven on all night and served it hot & moist and deep baked for shabbat lunch.
Then I cut down on carbs and tried to move to a more mediterranean diet. Super modern here. But nothing could beat that kugel. My mouth waters at the memory of it.
I am so hungry now!
My desserts kick butt and are trans-fat free!
And what about sorbets and the like?
Have to admit, I usually serve fruit salad for dessert.
But it does have mango & kiwi to jazz it up.
frummies are now not going to be putting raisins in their luckshen kugel either!!!
Dude, you really need to hook u with some sephardim, put some spice in your life and on you Shabbos table. The stereotypical ashkenaz foods are what keep me eating at home, where I get a mix of North and South African recipes, you can’t begin to imagine the difference when compared to bland Eastern European foods.
Wouldn’t checking vegetables for bugs be a problem on Shabbos (borer)? If frummies now have to pick out anfd cut open all the raisins in their breakfast cereals, I guess it’s back to good old corn flakes.
There are smooth-operator-young-couple-husband-learns-in-the-Mir frummies who have lit-up meals that put to shame many of the MO seudot…
Frummies will never eat any of the following vegetables unless forced to by some white yarmulke wearing host who swears he washed them 22 times, shows them the bodek packaging, and informs the guests that he speaks Yiddish fluently and approves of banning women. Non frozen broccoli, strawberries, asparagus, or romaine lettuce – frummies favor bagged dole iceberg lettuce that has no taste besides for those little slivers of red cabbage. Frummies also never serve cooked peppers, but love to put green peppers into salad and mushrooms as well – see I gave em something.
dys,
I love eating fruit as a Shabbat lunch dessert. Cakes and cookies are bit excessive after eating Cholent (or it’s cousins).
How awful you eat in America. The food here in Shiloh is colorful, kugelless. Nu, you’re invited. Unless you like the brown, oily stuff.
I like the brown and the colorful – my diet is like that of a politically correct college ad
dys, please share your kugel recipe. I’d like to make a healthier version of it.
Batya,
The oily stuff probably helped us survive Russian winters. That’s probably also why typical Israeli food tends to be of the Mediterranean variety
Why does it have to be frummie vs MO, there’s plenty in between.
We’re definitely not MO and our house is the place is to come to for color!
Hesh, you didn’t mention any of the Deli stuff??The Frummys love Turkey Pastrami, & Making Deli roll
Dark chicken is cheaper, frummies use frozen broccoli because broccoli needs to be checked for bugs,
Gee where do I fit in? I like carrots (color) and put red/green peppers in my food and have made carrot soup. However, I also eat dark meat, use frozen broccoli and make great desserts… apple kugel, anyone?
I agree with Phil, you need to eat at sephardi peoples houses for shabbat!
Dan you are correct deli roll has become the latest fad in frummy food fare.
i was gonna say exactly what Phil said. I’m not Sephardi, but your stereotypes only really apply to Ashkis!
I have some pretty nice Shabbos salads that I make (check those out at http://www.koshercuisine.blogspot.com). We always start with at least 4 different kinds of salads at each meal.
We are far from Modox and I make amazing food, if I do say so myself. Lots of color, lots of salads, no meat though (much too expensive for our pre-med family). Incredible desserts.
Hey at least us Modern Orthodox have sex appeal.Me and my husband wounders how you frummi girls have shidduch criseses when you look so bland
which catagory do Chofetz Chaim, Ohr Hachaim, and middle of the road yeshiva’s fall into when it comes to this food discussion?
Dude I have no idea of what u r talking about.My friends and myself are what you would call Yeshivish and we don’t even serve kugel on shabbos.I have never made salads with soap strawberries in my life.We are very gormet in my house we make all diffrent kinds of chicken and meat-veal, turkey,brisket,london broil ect. o.we have at leat four salads by each meal
Joy by the very fact that you serve gourmet food you are acknowledging you have money and by doing that you have downgraded your status in the frum community since somewhere along your line of yeshivishness someone went off the derech and actually got a job other then kollel or Rebbe – which means you are working boys and not yeshiva boys – which means you will never get a good shidduch.
The term “gourmet food” is a sign of someone who doesn’t really understand food. It doesn’t have to be expensive. It just has to be well-prepared. The problem is that Eastern European Jewish food is really pretty bland uninspiring. Traditionally, the only things that mattered were that it be hot and plentiful.
The Sepharedim, now there’s a bunch of Jews who understand good cooking.
frum satire- chas vashalom I am not worried about getting a good shidduch.Hashem will take care of that.Actually surprise suprise” but the yeshivish boys that i know don’t only like kugel and chulent.Yes I do make kugel but I am sick of the same food all the time.A lot of my friends try and make diffrent recipes for shabbos.I guess that you don’ tknow to many normal yeshivish people.
My father was learing in kollel for about ten years now he works and learns in the mornings.All my older brothers are in kollel(they will eventually go work but not now).
Just because you are yeshivish that doesn’t make you a nerd.My family enjoys and appreciates good food.BTW we are not rich. B’H My family knows how to have nice things with out spending an arm and a leg. We budget!
Instead of getting the $75 dollar briskt.my mother will get the $35.00 one ect…
Seriously man you have been living under a rock.If you are ever in NY you should come to my family for a Shabbos meal and see what normal Yeshivish people are like!
A. Nuran-
You are 100% right in the sense that to have nice food it doesn’t have to be expensive.You just have to know how to prepare and to present the food.
When I said Gormet- I was refering to the kind of food that they have in cook books and in Resturaunts.
However you are wrong that Ashkenazi Jews food are bland.I am Ashkenazi/Litvish and our food is far from bland.Everyone loves to come eat at our house.
Joy, that makes everything clear. Thanks for making the distinction. Now, for my own part my mother’s family was Litvak and Russian and conformed to all the worst stereotypes when it came to food. Heavy. Bland. Oily. No vegetables. Too much salt. That’s probably why I read cookbooks for fun.
Finding Claudia Roden was a revelation. She’s Jewish from Egypt and lives in London. Her books like “The Book of Middle Eastern Food”, “The New Book of Middle Eastern Food” and especially “The Book of Jewish Food” are excellent. Just about everything in them is Kosher except for a couple Arabic specialties in TBoMEF that are specifically mentioned like Kid braised in milk. Most are inexpensive. So far all have been delicious.
As well as being full of delicious recipes the books are an education in the history of food and its significance. TBoJF explains how a lot of our customs came to be, why we eat what we eat and all sorts of interesting things. For instance, I found out that matzoh was originally much different, more like tortillas or chapati and that that’s how Jews from many parts of the world still make it. The crunchy stuff we eat today was originally the crust. It was more prized, so the way it was prepared was modified much like there are special tins for making just the crusty muffin tops.
This Shabbos I’m going to modify a cassoulet recipe to make the Cholent from Hell. White beans, a cut up roast duck, a few strips of salted beef instead of the traditional bacon, a little bit of this and that…. Mmmm….
(Live ducks are cheap around here. The local rabbi will schecht them)
Joy
What is your adress I’ll come to you your house this friday night 🙂
🙂 🙂 🙂
Anonymous you have got to identify yourself first.I don’t want to invite a serial killer!LOL-sorry Hesh I know that you hate that!
The deli is always a biggie in ALL homes. I’m surprised you didn’t mention that.