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Letter to the editor: Why make fun of yeshivish people so much

stop_frum_satireHi,

I happen to run across your blog in doing a search for Pomegranate Supermarket. I read a few of your posts and I have to wonder, why all the negativity about yeshivish people?

Many yeshivish bochurim and men (my husband as an example) will not use the internet as these bochurim and men take the issues of bitul z’man and shemiras enayim very seriously. We have the internet for my college, but most of my friends do not have internet at all. For that reason, the comments section of your blog is mostly further negativity about yeshivish people.

As a frum person, I always try to look positively at other frum people of all stripes. It always surprises me when I don’t see others doing the same.

Yitty Ringel

Dear Yitty,

I tend to get the same exact letter from people of all stripes (not just frum people) who stumble across my blog and feel offended, so you aren’t alone, plenty of others have been offended as well. If you would have read through the blog instead of getting offended right away, you would have found that it’s not negativity, it’s satire and humor, which means that 99% of what appears on this blog is not serious at all. Heck, I myself don’t even agree with half the things I write. You would also have found that yeshivish people are a very small percentage of the folks I make fun of. In fact I would say that Modern Orthodox, Chassidim, and BT’s take a majority of the beatings.

The simple fact of the matter is that you see through yeshivish eyes and so you’re selective in what offends you, the gays, chabad, and hipsters are exactly the same. I can go a year without writing about chabad and suddenly, my whole blog is one big chabad bash fest according to whomever stumbled upon that post and never read anything else.

However, the only reason I’m writing you back is because your letter isn’t open minded at all, when I saw the line “As a frum person, I always try to look positively at other frum people of all stripes. It always surprises me when I don’t see others doing the same.’ I almost spit my organic, locally grown, yogurt parfait out – I didn’t because everything was so expensive to make it. But seriously, do you actually think that way? I understand completely, you basically don’t look positive at anyone besides frum people. Do you look at frum people of all stripes exactly the same? Do you look positively at frum people who may support liberal ideas that don’t mesh with your idealized frumkeit? What about regular people, do you walk down the street and have negative thoughts about everyone besides those who fit your little Flatbush box?

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  1. I get that she may have missed the satire point, but unlike you (in your own special form of “open-mindedness”), I will forgive her for having better things to do with her time than read back posts of variable quality to form a wider view on your blog.

    Where on earth do you get the impression that she doesn’t, in fact, look positively on anyone else except for her own?

    You sound a whole lot more offended than she does…

    (Or was this satire too? If it was, you did a horrible job of it, you just sound like a douchebag)

    1. I’ll take sounding like a d-bag as a compliment, it’s an underused word and it’s so rare to find a true d-bag these days. She doesn’t have to read back posts, she has to read more than one post.

      I’m offended by your doucbaggery and hers.

        1. Been getting these same comments everytime something in my life changes.

          Ever since you got into gay rights, metzitzah b’peh, moved out of NY, became a chef, grew up, turned 30, had two bikes stolen, stopped having premarital sex, discovered that shtetl Judaism is a myth, uh…you’ve stopped being funny.

          I should start saving these kinds of douchey comments, I’ve been getting them since the blog was 3 months old.

          1. My rav agrees with me, so that’s that. But your post had too many syllables. Apologize!

      1. douchebaggery is one of my favorite words. It is probably the most under-utilized, yet most effective and concise words in the entire English lexicon. Normally most applicable to the self-aggrandizing and know-it-all attitudes of first year law students, it is so much greater than simply calling someone a D-bag. Bravo for using it.

    2. “Where on earth do you get the impression that she doesn’t, in fact, look positively on anyone else except for her own?”
      Right here -> “As a frum person, I always try to look positively at other FRUM people of all stripes. It always surprises me when I don’t see others doing the same.”
      Get it? She’s only open-minded and positive about her own groupies but she’s stating it as if she’s just open-minded about everyone. That’s whats funny.

  2. Its been a while since you wrote something about Chabad.(BTW if you think Chabad girls in crown heights are hot come to Miami!)

  3. Searching for “Pomegranate Supermarket”? Come on, that won’t get you to frum satire. Fess up, you were searching for “hot yeshivish porn with kollel wives in mikvah gone wild”.

  4. My only problem with shemiras eynayim is that YOU STILL NEED TO LOOK WHERE YOU ARE GOING YOU FOOL. How is it a chillul hashem to catch a glimpse of a pretty girl and not a chillul hashem to send innocent bystanders flying off the sidewalks as you ricochet off of them like some crazy drunk? Every time a chosid knocks a woman or a small black child off the sidewalk and into an iron fence, every person who sees it thinks one thing and I can tell you it is not “he is a tsaddik — we will never reach his level.” If people could find a way to guard their eyes without offending half of the people they encounter and physically harming the other half, I’d be all for it. As it is, my advice is to get a guide dog – at least then people will not blame you for your behavior, although you may get sued by some blind people, for insulting their group.

  5. Some folks here, including Heshy, seem to have reading comprehension issues.

    In response to the perceived judgment of the”Frum” set, Ms. Ringel suggests that she tries to look positively on “Frum” people — that does not exclude the possibility that she also looks positively on non-Frum people– the “other” folks were simply outside the scope of her post.

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